--Home
The Smurf
Airsoft
Brewing
Stove
Steam Garden
Island Race
Little Floater
4AGE build
William
AMOC Pasta
AMOC 5th
The Garden
Spagshed3
New HQ
Mr Ed (16v)
Spagshed2
SMD castle
Camp Jul05
FestOSpeed
Camp May05
Annie Done
MR2 _1
Snow '05
Ed Spec
Annie Fix
MITP45
Trailer 2
GSFTDR
Mini Prayer
Spag Art
Annie
Trailer 1
The Pool
Ed at Lydden
Riv Run '03
Ed Vids #01
Transplant
New Arrival
Rebuild 2
Rebuild 1
Stripping
Taz Swap
Painting 2
Lakes 2000
Painting 1
Roll/Wood
CC 2000
MLM Dyno
Spag & FTM
Doris of Old

Mr Ed (16v)

Jump to latest

The New Secret Project !

Mr Ed gets more valves...

Edwards MR2 engine transplant.

Task... Stick together a slightly more esoteric 16V Mini than the common as muck Honda/Vauxhall conversions...

Measured up the engine in Elaine's MR2, just to see if a 2.0 3SGE would fit, but the dimensions all looked a bit keen as the engine is fairly tall and depth of the gearbox and diff seemed a bit tight too, shame coz they do rev nicely !

No - I didn't pull Elanie's engine out for this - it's a pic I found on the interweb! (Of the wrong engine - but you get the idea).

10_3sge.jpg (75024 bytes)

But as a consolation, the 1.6 4AGE engine from the MK1 is a bit smaller,  pokes out a respectable 120 bhp, redlines at 7700rpm and has a convenient shape inlet manifold.

11_4age.jpg (63631 bytes)

 

7th June

Bought two MK1 MR2 (4AGE) engines & 1 gearbox for the silly sum of 100, the day before another 4AGE without box had sold for 180!!! Don't you just love finding things that have been incorrectly listed so no one else finds them ;-)

Engine1 and box will stay together for the first fit, while engine2 is being stripped for a rebuild - note the Spagweld engine stand!

20_ebay_find1.jpg.jpg (137968 bytes) 21_ebay_find2.jpg.jpg (134663 bytes)

Ed's engine bay and the thing that has to go in.

22_1380.jpg.jpg (128628 bytes) 23_4age.jpg.jpg (145960 bytes) 25_front.jpg (110339 bytes) 26_side_engine.jpg (115277 bytes) 27_side_eng_car.jpg (115742 bytes)

And a quick bit of photoshoppery to join them together!

24_fakefit.jpg (111772 bytes)

Engine1 turns over by hand with no scary crunchy noises, and has a nice firm bouncy compression.

Engine2 turns over just as smoothly, which was a bit of a surprise as it has no plugs and there is a hint of water in one of the cyls. The seller said that the engines had just been outside for about a month, but you never know, do you ?

Pulled the head of Engine2 and found a little soft sludge, but no rust or other scary things, so may be OK!

First job is a bit of a clean with some handy shed chemicals...

01_degrease.jpg (95602 bytes) 02_bores.jpg (129166 bytes) 03_cam_covers.jpg (83898 bytes) 04_head.jpg (80975 bytes) 05_head.jpg (103875 bytes)

Must remember to rinse the bits before they all fizz away...

 

9th June

Head has come up pretty well without disolving, and the valves all look pretty good

11_16v.jpg (95734 bytes)

Slight modification to my valve spring compressor coz the Yamaha developed head uses teeny caps & collets to hold the valves in. (Rumour has it that shims for their motorcycle heads are the can be used coz they are the same size...)

10_mod_sprng_comp.jpg (97220 bytes)

Big inlet ports for the variable inlet thingumies.

12_big_port.jpg (115369 bytes)  

Inlet manifold and the  variable inlet thingumies being de-cacked.

13_degoo_inlet.jpg (129963 bytes)

Bought an interesting Honda frame that seems to be loosely modelled on the GoMini one, 400 is a big enough chunk, but will save 3 or 4 days of modding a std subframe, or building one from scratch. Not very pretty, but should do the job :-)

01_sub.jpg (116489 bytes) 02_sub.jpg (118437 bytes) 04_sub.jpg (115859 bytes) 04_sub.jpg (115859 bytes)

Ha ha, how sooper is that !

My gamble seems to have paid off, and after 10 mins with the hacksaw to remove one of the Honda  mounts, the MR2 lump just slipped in OK.

05_chop.jpg (85939 bytes) 06_gap_now.jpg (83525 bytes)

OK, the alternator bracket needs to come off so that the engine can sit further back, then I need to weld up some mounts for the MR2 lump, but all looks promising!

07_test_fit.jpg (121847 bytes) 08_test_fit.jpg (120413 bytes) 09_test_fit.jpg (114133 bytes)

 

14th June

Decided to use Ford EDIS for ignition so that I can get rid of the dizzy, which may make a bit of room for the alternator to sit on the 'wrong' side of the engine.

Modified the Pievan's Megasquirt as this one is now going in Ed (poor Pievan!)

A couple of links and some component swapping should mean it's EDIS ready.

01_ms-edis-mod.jpg (126419 bytes) 02_ms-edis-mod.jpg (115130 bytes) 03_ms-edis-mod.jpg (123026 bytes)

 

16th June

EDIS stuff arrived, and it's rather magic really, plug the module and coil pack together, then 4 wires to make it work. So simple an 8yr old could do it - if they could tear themselves away from the Playstation to dig out the Lego ;-)

Simple test rig to check it all works...

04_lego_edis.jpg (69483 bytes) 05_lego_edis.jpg (72357 bytes)

Um, some sparks, meaning that it worked fine !

06_spark.jpg (29490 bytes)  07_spark.jpg (27079 bytes) 08_spark.jpg (31451 bytes)

 

17th June

Picked up another Ebay gem, a MR2 gearbox for 10, admittedly I paid another 20 for the driveshafts, but not a bad haul fer 30 !

In the afternoon, welded the trigger wheel onto the pulley and welded up a bracket for the sensor.

09_trigger.jpg (111748 bytes) 

 

18th June

Loom time, stuffed the coil pack in a handy space above the gearbox and started making up the engine loom....

 10_coilpack.jpg (129439 bytes)

By knitting the cables around various things in the shed.

11_loom.jpg (120968 bytes) 12_loom-zoom.jpg (129259 bytes)

Leaving a few offcuts !

13_spare.jpg (131111 bytes)

Then invented a '20 minute' manifold recipe.

Take a stock cast manifold, chop a couple of bits of steel pipe and weld on, squishing the ends to fit the next bit o pipe.

01_manifold.jpg (126639 bytes)

Attach the next bit o pipe and leave to cool for 10 mins :-)

02_manifold.jpg (117114 bytes) 03_manifold.jpg (125286 bytes)

 

Well, obviously with the 'lectronics in place and a bit of zorst, it would only take a bit of fuel and the engine should fire up, right ?

01_ecu.jpg (100883 bytes) 02_loom.jpg (121175 bytes) 03_fool.jpg (89253 bytes)

Engine Test #012.5mb avi (DivX5)

 

24th June

Made quick bodge blanking plate for the distributor out of some 8mm thick aluminium.

01_no_dizzy.jpg (97497 bytes)

With the help of Neil, we pulled out the 1380 removed the Mini subframe and stripped off the suspension components.

Chopped the front panel and inner wings, then trial fitted the new subframe.

01_sad.jpg (98218 bytes)

Found that some of the suspension pick up point's were not quite right, so decided that the easiest (quickest) way to fix it would be to glue the back of the standard Mini subframe to the front of the new one.

10_frame.jpg (127526 bytes) 

Also... Dropped a trolley jack on my foot :-(  Luckily it wasn't the big jack !!

30_toe.jpg (144632 bytes)

 

25th June

Spent a couple of hours on the spare head...  Exhaust valves cleaned, lapped in and refitted. Then for good measure stuck the zorst cam in and lobbed the cover on. Zzzzz boring job, will leave the inlet for another day ;-)

Mr Neil popped over again to assist and generally offer sarcastic comments about my craftsmanship... 

Chopped up the Mini frame and fitted the remains back on the car.

11_chop.jpg (115101 bytes) 12_chop.jpg (121492 bytes)

Then chopped the new frame and welded them together to make some sort of b45tard hybrid offspring. 

13_hybrid.jpg (118973 bytes)

Dangled the engine into the hole and kept trimming around the edges until it fitted in.

02_in.jpg (131714 bytes) 03_in.jpg (122561 bytes)

All looking good, but the inlet manifold is fouling slightly on the bulkhead by the master cylinders, so this will need attention  to make a bit more room.

05_close.jpg (119925 bytes) 04_close.jpg (91831 bytes)

 

26th June

Tried to get adjuster rides to turn & separate from the rubber breasts, all seized up, so coilovers it is then ;-)

Had a brain wave... If I take out the TVIS butterfly plate, then the inlet manifold suddenly gets 20mm shorter, which should help with the clearance and it's one thing less to have to control ;-) I don't think the Mini is heavy enough to have too much of a problem with loosing a little bottom end torque or economy !

Out with the TVIS,

06_tvis_out.jpg (111008 bytes) 07_after.jpg (123124 bytes)

More room!

08_gap.jpg (103172 bytes)

Pulled the engine back out, trimmed bulkhead x-member and master cylinder drip catcher and welded in a recess for the inlet.

09_masters.jpg (104388 bytes) 10_masters.jpg (124579 bytes)

Also trimmed bits of subframe to clear the diff.

 

27th June

Rebuilt the inlet valves/cams on the spare head, so that's all done and ready now.

Went a bit MIG crazy and seam welded a load of joins & cut edges on the subframe, then spent a couple of hours tweaking the coilover brackets and assembling them with some nice GAZ rod ended shocks. Handily I had a spare pair of 250lbs springs from Pievan testing, which should be about right.

01_coils.jpg (121274 bytes) 02_coils.jpg (96090 bytes)

Dropped the engine back in and roughly located it with some top quality 'bit-o-wood' mountings. Much better clearance to the bulkhead and scope to mount it higher to improve ground clearance.

 

28th June

Spent most of the day  making the final engine mountings - a time consuming job, but probably quite important to get it about right!

Engine needs to be centred so the front wheels don't foul the crank pulley or gearbox, needs to be nice and straight across the car, needs to be mostly horizontal and there needs to be the minimal gap between the back of the engine and bulkhead (less than 10mm). Oh, and lastly the mounts need to be easy to reach, easy to use and must take up as little engine bay as possible.

17_rmount.jpg (98636 bytes) 18_lmount.jpg (101819 bytes) 19_fmount.jpg (77313 bytes)

Results are good, the engine is nice and solid with as much space as possible left for the radiator and other junk :-)

14_fitted.jpg (94227 bytes) 15_fitted.jpg (67200 bytes) 16_engine.jpg (98905 bytes)

Chopped the front off the bottom arm pins, fitted new bushes and welded some locating strips hold the front ends in place. Suspension is now finished and just needs the angles checking.

03_bottom_pin.jpg (66467 bytes)

 

29th June

Another time consuming job, this time the gear linkage. This one needed a bit of thought to ensure that the gear stick ended up working the right way after reversing it. Other things to consider:- fixed  cable length, routing of the cables, location of shifter, leverage ratios - and a small, simple design (right, no pressure then!!).

After much head scratching this is revision #1. The cables run tight to the box to save space, and are connected to give the smallest shifter movement possible, which should result in reasonable travel when the stick gets lengthened. (The extra spiky bits will be lopped off when it's all been tested properly!

01_changer.jpg (96401 bytes) 02_changer.jpg (110861 bytes)

The MR2 shifter thingy fits nicely to the floor unlike the huge comedy beige plastic lump you get with the Vauxhalls ;-) The stick will need to be extended for a comfortable reach.

03_mr2_shifter.jpg (124168 bytes)

Then onto making the final exhaust - 2" bore with 2 boxes, hopefully should have reasonably deep note, but not be too loud and chavtastic ;-)

Extra wiggle welded onto the fanny-mould to get the pipe in the centre of the tunnel.

01_fanny_mould.jpg (75034 bytes)

Jetex rear silencer with the old RC40 tail pipe welded on.

02_pipe.jpg (115157 bytes)

Jetex intermediate box.

03_pipe.jpg (104714 bytes) 04_pipe.jpg (79537 bytes)

 

30th June

Chopped up the removed bits of front panel then welded the corners back in place on the car, the middle bit behind the number plate  comes off with the bumper for easy access .

20_front.jpg (92454 bytes)

Trial fit of the Corsa radiator looks reasonable, although it took a fair bit of juggling and fettling to get it to squeeze in with the fan !

21_radtest.jpg (102798 bytes) 22_radtest.jpg (112502 bytes)

Extended the gear stick, modified the Mini gaiter to fit, then lobbed the carpet back in. - Also got Elaine to be an ergonome and er, test the ergonomics :-)

04_done.jpg (83874 bytes) 05_ergonome.jpg (80760 bytes)

Removed the inlet manifold, drilled an 18mm hole in Y piece, then welded a 1/2 nut in place to make a boss for the O2 sensor.

 

1st July

Spent the morning creating a bracket for the alternator, to squeeze it in under the headlamp, then measured the belt and tootled off to Halfwits. Found the nearest belt size was 10mm longer so redesigned the bracket - poop !

06_alto.jpg (120210 bytes) 07_alto.jpg (110113 bytes) 08_alto.jpg (110882 bytes)

Fitted the sooper-Spag relay / fuse box to the bulkhead, and mounted the EDIS module underneath, then installed then engine loom, which, due to a slight change of plan needed a bit of editing.

05_fuse_edis.jpg (98476 bytes)

Here's a shot of the EDIS VR sensor and 36-1 trigger wheel - this time not a LEGO install ;-)

04_crank wheel.jpg (108082 bytes)

 

2nd July

Sunday, so had a lie in and didn't venture outside until 0630 :-)

Spent a couple of hours playing with wiring and other 'lectrical stuff, then Neil came over and got horribly frustrated in the blazing sun, trying to wire the front lights back up. He had a damned good excuse though - some of the 1975 BL wiring had changed colour due to age & oil contamination, turning blues into greens !!!

I also had a fun job trying to diagnose why we were not getting any sparks until Neil asked if the timing strobe actually worked. Sticking a screwdriver up the plug lead showed that the strobe had died. Poop more wasted time :-(

But after these little technical hitches were overcome, we quickly plumbed in the cooling system.

23_radiator.jpg (146662 bytes)

Then added a temporary fuel supply and fired the engine into life :-)

Very pleased, using a mostly default map the engine sounds pretty sweet with 60+psi of oil pressure at 1300rpm, then after a bit of fiddling got a nice stable 600rpm idle too !

05_run2.avi - 7670kb DivX avi of engine running in car.

Then unwound in the cool of the evening by fiddling about with the removey front panel thing.

21_front_bit.jpg (103964 bytes)

Which  fits in the 'ole with 4 bolts.

22_front_missing.jpg (128191 bytes) 23_front_in.jpg (126690 bytes)

Then the grill screws in.

24_grill_on.jpg (119987 bytes)

Doesn't compare too badly with my earlier fake pic ;-)

25_4age_mini.jpg (119963 bytes)

In all, quite a discrete install !

26_ed.jpg (111781 bytes) 27_ed.jpg (95319 bytes) 28_ed.jpg (98549 bytes)

Still got a few things to do before driving though.... Driveshafts, fuel tank, brakes, and a bit of dash wiring etc...

I think I deserved the big celebratory beer !! (Hope Neil had one too!)

01_beer.jpg (101857 bytes)

 

 

5th July

Modified a standard 7.5 gallon Mini tank for fool injection by welding a 'Spag-sump' fuel take off to the bottom...

A suitable steel can with a pipe fitting welded on forms the sump that will collect fuel from the bottom of the tank. It's not very big, but will hopefully stop the pump from sucking air on acceleration or cornering - when the tank is running low...

01_can_pipe.jpg (84804 bytes) 02_spag-sump.jpg (75395 bytes)

The sump fits on the bottom of the tank and the fuel drops through these holes...

04_tank_holes.jpg (100215 bytes)

 

NOTE - welding something that has contained petrol can be a bit risky and potentially fatal, so... don't do it !

This tank has not been used for 7 years and has been left uncapped for that time, bit it still had a petroly smell ! So, to make sure the tank wasn't going to explode while welding I chose the super safe option of remotely applying a match or two.

03_tank_safe.jpg (118296 bytes)

After a distinct lack of detonation or even feeble fire I proceeded to the next stage in preparation of welding.

During welding the tank had (recycled) water running through it and an extinguisher on standby.

05_no_fire.jpg (84006 bytes)

The Spag-sump welded on with no incidents and to make sure it's leak proof a thin skim of chemical metal was added.

06_welded_on.jpg (85888 bytes) 07_filler.jpg (95475 bytes)

Tank still fits :-)

08_test_fit.jpg (120135 bytes)

So after a quick lick of Hammerite the fuel system is now working (if not fully bolted in...)

09_paint.jpg (89293 bytes) 10_fitted_in.jpg (95058 bytes)

 

8th/9th July

Mr Neil assists again :-)

Removed the radiator to make space for the new front brake plumbing and Neil lobbed on the flexi hoses, then he went off to the back of the car to fight with fitting the rear flexies and some smaller bore cylinders.

New radiator/fan brackety frame thing for a more solid mounting than cable ties !

30_rad_frame.jpg (124376 bytes) 31_frame_fitted.jpg (139053 bytes)

A nice collection of copper plumbing fittings, chopped up hoses and cable ties plumbs in the heater and bypass pipes.

32_copper_plumbing.jpg (112404 bytes)

After running the engine up to temperature and flushing the poop out we spotted that the water in the swirl pot was flowing the wrong way :-(

Turns out that the Toyota engine has the stat the other way round... So instead of the stat opening to let hot water out to the radiator, it opens to let the cool water in - bugger!

With a bit more plumbing, it all works the right way round now :-)

33_swirl_pot.jpg (128869 bytes) 34_cooling_done.jpg (115967 bytes) 35_cooling_done.jpg (123776 bytes)

Next tasks were 'lectrics and shafts, so Neil sets about cursing the 20years of sundry mods and bodges to the loom, while I get busy with the MIG'n'grinder.

Washers, new indicator switchery, accessory socket & 'orn all working.

Mini & MR2 drives hafts measured, re measured, measured again then chopped up and welded together again, results were remarkably straight!

The nearside shaft is pretty short, so the CV boots will almost overlap !! 

10_shaft.jpg (139083 bytes)

Offside shaft in position. (Don't worry, there really is plenty of space between the brake hose and choppy EDIS wheel !)

11_shaft.jpg (89936 bytes)

Last job:- tighten/ grease suspension & check the wheel nuts, then test drive :-)

Ok, so due to a wiggly -ve connection the Megasquirt wouldn't fire up, but after that extra last job was sorted it was test drive time.

*** ED MOVES !!! ***

10_ed_moves_1.avi  Neil gets the first drive 9112kb DivX avi

OK, so the front grill rattles, the throttle return spring is too weak and the fuelling isn't mapped - but it works!

11_ed_moves_2.avi My turn. 10404kb DivX avi

Um, yup, it definitely works :-)

Felt a bit grindy under acceleration, so the box may be a bit crappy - or maybe just needs the oil checking !

Pesky alternator seems to be stuffed, so that will need sorting before any real on road tuning, but doesn't seem to major.

Good progress though (ta again Neil) so time for a relaxing pint

02_relaxing_pint.jpg (50989 bytes)

 

23rd Sept

Speedo update...

Due to a bizarre twist of fate it turned out that the speedo in Ed just happened to be accurate to within a couple of MPH when connected to the MR2 gearbox :-)

However, modifying the cable to work reliably was a bit more troublesome, but after several failed revisions it was time to get serious! I had tried epxoying the Mini square plastic end bit to the MR2 cable but it failed a couple of times, so the MIG came out and I welded a blob to the end, then filed it to shape.

01_speedo.jpg (114135 bytes)

A bit of thin steel tube crimped over the end of the outer cable

03_speedo.jpg (114877 bytes)

And a larger bit epoxied to the end fitting thing cut from the original Mini cable.

02_speedo.jpg (81531 bytes)

Then the whole lot just clamps together, and the length can be fine tuned for the perfect fit.

04_speedo.jpg (81361 bytes)

 

3rd Nov

Rolling road.....

Well, considering Mr Toyota claimed the engine should stick out about 125bhp (when new in 1986), we were quite pleased to find that our 50 bargain Ebay engine was putting out nearly 130 at the wheels :-)

Hooray for us, Elaine's Megasquirt tooning skills and the spagbodged 'freeflow' exhaust system!!

Actually, removing the TVIS butterfly plates has probably improved the top end a bit at the expense of a little bottom end torque.

But having said that it still has twice the torque of an A series, so there's more than enough to go round...

Peak torque 148 lbs ft @ 4000 rpm

RPM BHP (flywheel)
3000 77
4000 108
5000 132
6000 138
6500 135

A few vids, squished with DivX

Edited highlights.

01_dial.jpg (15997 bytes) ed01-dial1.avi 1.2mb

03_short.jpg (12401 bytes) ed03-short.avi 4.4mb

And here's the longer one (yawn)

02_med.jpg (25049 bytes) ed02-med.avi 18.2mb